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i kind of sped over trial in the last comment because the big senses conversation happened before it and i wanted to group all of the murder related things together!!! and this was definitely murder related. timelines are for quitters
so like i said at the beginning, gu yun's big character arc was about learning to accept help from other people. gu yun would generally rather die than ask for help from anyone or admit to any sort of weakness, especially w/ his eyesight/hearing issue. it's a whole thing! and it really delighted me that the lore came out so early for molly because i was looking at my timer gleefully like It's Time. i was pretty much vibrating all friday waiting for the body announcement to make sure that molly and harrow (and also mahito since i had settled on that plan) were alive so i could come running to do this thread.
and i think the biggest thing about him telling molly and harrow was like - he gave over this huge weakness in that "well, jsyk, i'm gonna have to kill someone this week probably, just a heads up"! and the decision to tell them all about this came with a few expected reasons (+results he thought he was going to get). one, they both knew about his senses already. two, he trusted both harrow and molly more than anyone else in this game. three, being without his medicine is just an impossibility for him - in canon, there's a point where he is given the chance to take it and get an hour of clarity before he gets the debilitating pain in the middle of a GIGANTIC battle, and he goes through this mental gymnastic of how long the battle is gonna take, realizes he'll be fucked over in the middle... and still goes "fuck it" and takes the medicine anyway. he cannot resist the chance to not be down his senses no matter the consequences, and this chance just happened to involve murdering someone. so he'd already committed to this plan at this point, unless lup was able to find another method. (i'll say he was hoping that would be the case, but, yeah. he really wasn't that mad about having to kill a guy for it. you do what you gotta do.) so, by telling the two of them, he was basically saying "hey, look, i'm probably gonna do this thing. do with that information what you will" ... so if the two of them wanted to throw him under the bus, they could. idt he really ever thought they would, but like - siz brought it up in relation to childe, that that's the kind of person he's always worked with, so i think there's a part of him that accepted that that could happen? he's an idiot is what im saying
... and he was pretty much immediately proven an idiot because molly and harrow both were like "Uh? No?" and doing everything to stop/help. like, that threw him for the BIGGEST LOOP in the world. that was the last thing he was expecting!!! that they just offered help and kindness instead of taking advantage of his senses really helped like solidify his trust in the two of them. that trust was still kind of a new feeling, though, and it was really easy to be tentative over it instead of like, jump in head first. like a newborn baby deer ya feel. it touched him a little that molly was like "what do i have to trade to make it happen" too but he also wasn't going to let him do that even if it was an option. molly's really fierce reaction to him possibly dying kind of threw him off too, so by the end of this whole conversation he was like ?? ???? ??? friends? trust?? hello??? but even that wasn't going to stop him from doing it.
i still think it is INSANELY funny that they had the exact same murder plan. so did gu yun, honestly. it helped to kind of cement his general affection for molly in the "i can't believe we're both the same kind of idiot" kind of way, but also in the way that molly just seems to like, get it? he just got what kind of person gu yun was and that's something rarely afforded to him in canon. it was why when they talked about it in private that he was a little more willing to admit to the details of it, and also why he agreed that harrow didn't need to know that it likely wasn't going to be self defense. (even though she knew.) molly asked him to promise to survive, so he did. gy's the kind of person with a lot of resolve, and those lil promises of surviving/not failing at it really just added onto that. every time he made molly a promise he did his damndest to follow through on it.
in that same little post-trial thread, molly also got TWO huge gestures of trust out of gy. the first was after they had that emotional conversation, molly asked him to stay the night, and normally, in a situation where he was going to be blind the next day, he would've fucking booked it or found literally any other excuse to stay back in his room alone. waking up blind and deaf in a location that isn't completely familiar, with another person, is a HUGE deal - that's the kind of shit he's usually so protective over. but, because it was molly, he agreed to stay, falling into that whole newborn-deer-learning-how-to-stand-but-like-emotionally thing and putting his well being in molly's hands. they ended up not staying in molly's room anyway so it didn't matter, but it was really the principle of the thing that was a big deal, and sort of following up on the conversations they'd had about managing his senses with harrow, too, willingly putting his trust down. and they ended up having a really good night after that, too.... despite love arrows still being a thing!!
the second gesture of trust was the tattoo thing. listen. man. this is sillier but gu yun? he knows he's hot shit and he's very vain about being pretty and wants to stay that way. it's also not normal for people from great liang to do like ANY kind of body mod (that's barbarian shit!) but he trusted molly to do it WHEN HE COULDN'T EVEN SEE IT!!!! we didn't get to thread it out because what was time but rest assured he was pleased when he could actually see it again haha. but he was the one to bring it up because it would be helpful, and because he trusted molly to make it look good. yea.
wow we did a lot of important shit in this one pc thread this was also the first time they talked about the "what are you doing after this" thing. molly was the first person to ask GY this question so he got to see his existential crisis live and in color which i thought was really perfect. it was the first time he ever actually thought about the fact that he didn't have much of an identity outside of being ~*The Marquis of Order*~ like ever? and that shook him a little bit, even if he didn't show it much then. one of the things i really enjoyed about this game was getting to play with gy's sense of identity and i think that molly had a huge impact on it - he just asked the right questions, or said the right things, or, you know, was just totally lovable. this got him thinking about his "fuck now what" which will come up later.
also i guess he almost died at the end of week 4 but whatever a little lava never killed nobody (except beau). he wasn't really worried about it but he did stick good on that promise of staying alive. when gy first started getting the forced to walk to the execution thing going that sunday morning the first thing he thought was "oh god dammit CROW MOUTH" but then the second was "ok gotta do this, can't die." he promised not to! so. he didn't want to give molly anything else to worry about!!
moving on to week 5!!!!
ok so by sunday night of week 4 gy knew he was going to lose his hearing/sight entirely. (i was really committed to this plan until about halfway through the day and then i was like "oh god mods i cant do this" so luckily he got to keep a teeny bit of it)!! so with the love arrow curse wrapping up plus the lack of his senses plus the whole im gonna have to kill somebody this week thing… it was the PERFECT time to flowerbomb molly and get his promise in. heh
i was setting that up on sunday like low key running around asking for favors (smash cut to me running into becks' dms and going "hey gy needs to get into the room at like 5 am what dont worry about it is that cool ok thanks". idt becks unlocked the molly pc or you didnt OR SOMEONE DIDNT but i hope there was a thread about just flowers everywhere cause the sleepover one cracked me up). gy was gonna originally go with the flowers plan the week before but it wasn't gonna be quite like this, he was just gona give them to him. but, gu yun's middle name should be yolo and therefore he just? decided to do this instead. he loves his romantic gestures and he loves being showy and dramatic and i think the week before had him feeling some kind of way so it all culminated in this pigtail pulling romance. flurry and i handwaved getting flower petals/jewelry but wrath was the one who helped him get the jewelry and the fake flowers and then any real ones were from pride c: so they were in on it too!!! but gy was like "i need something absolutely ridiculous looking" and lup gave him the dragon necklace first and then after that they picked out something serious and pretty. LOL. he was one hundred percent like hanging out waiting for molly to come visit after he did it since he couldn't hear the door, like a great big nerd. AND WOW, TOTAL SUCCESS!!!!! gu yun does absolutely nothing in small measures including spoiling/romancing a tiefling. in terms of little gay shit it made him very sappy to see him wearing the nice piece like all the time forever which is very gross.
too bad he couldn't see that well! ha
anyway, dokis happened and it was great! that was his version of a "ok i like you romantically but idk how to say it so im just gonna act like it", really. our threads started off really light and positive and flirty at the beginning of the week, kind of on purpose? at least on gys end bc he knew what was coming. (they talked plot a bit week 5 too which phew :stressedbunny:). but he was trying to put it all out there. you know. just in case. so things got more anxiety ridden of course as the week went on and then gy did in fact kill the flea, shocking absolutely no one!!!
he was lying obviously about it being self defense but he was lying for harrow at least in their first convo after it. the hug slap still absolutely kills me i think its the funniest thing ever, gy was absolutely not expecting molly to smack him AND HE KNEW WHY HE DID IT so he just took it which is even funnier. he like knew his lie extra wouldn't stand up to molly so there was something kind of relieving about molly choosing to accept it, i think? just another level where they Vibed on his end, looking out for harrow. i feel like week five was like peak big brothers and little sister, both with horrible flirting over curfew and also when they were covering her ears during the talk stupid as hell.
before the trial this two comment pc took me the FUCK out i remember i just screamed when i got it AUUGH. it was good over text, because gy was able to say it back, and helped solidify that resolve of surviving the trial and not getting caught. throughout this whole thing he just coming back to that "no one left behind" he promised that first weekend. it wasn't just for great liang either at that point, he had to survive for molly (and lup and harrow), too.
during the trial itself he didn't have any doubt that they were going to be okay, but ultimately, it was molly who saved his ass. stepping back from that trial, one of the biggest meta things that I pulled from it was like. the narrative joy of the relationship b/t gy and childe and the type of people they are - and how childe had his Murder Club but ultimately didnt really trust others, and gu yun put his entire faith and trust in molly and harrow - an absolute leap of faith - and it was that willingness that got him safely through the trial itself. (side note: i really thought it was great that he had his claw mark mixed in and the excuse was "These are from molly (waggles eyebrows)" and the entire game was like "yup that checks out". like thank god they been fckin.)
anyway the actual trial was sort of a culminating moment for the relationship between molly and gy on gy's end if only because it did a good job showing how much build up had to go through for this to happen. i mentioned in the last comment but trust is HUGE for gu yun, and this trial did a great job of showing him why molly (and harrow too) wasn't like the people he was used to working with (ie: childe), and that he wasn't only just worthy of his trust a little, but he was fullheartedly. i ended up making this asw after week 5 ended. touches heart. molly was already ride or die by this point but this did so much for him in terms of being a little less terrified of Feelings because there's nothing more terrifying than putting your entire life in someone else's hands?? and having it work out so perfectly just did so much for that.
also he cried on him saturday night for hug/slap combo 2! there was a lot going on in that thread (to say the least) but gy is so just absolutely fatally bad with tears that he would've done LITERALLY ANYTHING to comfort him and make him feel better. i think by the end of it he was pretty wrung out too, between the actual trial itself (and like having the mistakes and the not mistakes kinda shoved into his face for nine hours) and lup being freaked out and harrow being upset and having to stick to his lie so when molly broke down on him he was Going Through It, too? it's why he grabbed onto him and was holding on really tight, bc harrow got to him real good and then molly crying on him was also freaking him out and sometimes you are just one stupid man who does not know how to feel emotions and he was feeling SO MANY EMOTIONS.
i think it was dokis in terms of like "i have feelings for you/ i really care about you" up until the end of week 5, after the trial. after that it was something way deeper. that big l word. even molly joking like "i dont even want to bang i just want to cuddle" he was like man
me too???
wild. this is wild. gu yun like... there's a line in canon that talks about how when he's held by another person, he sleeps like an absolute fucking baby because he's never really been loved? in his entire life? so i think molly's emotions and his willingness to help him no matter what and just his reactions before/during/after all of week five were just the last piece. by the end of week 5 he just felt. loved. and like, i know you said gy took molly out at the knees in terms of a ship but it was completely mutual! every time he needed help, even when he didn't reach out for it or ask (and when he did) and even when he didn't deserve it (see: allying with childe) molly still gave it to him and that is just so. its SO much. gy didn't stand a chance either. wow amazing. he just felt loved!!! so he really meant his "I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you" and he wouldn't have said that if he wasn't feeling a certain kind of way.
sighs heavily anyway childe's stupid ass REVIVED and he was super worried about getting retaliated against but molly was one of the reasons why he chilled out just a little - though, admittedly, he was more on harrow's side of paranoia than molly's in this case. one of those things where he and harrow are super similar in that they're both suspicious as hell and molly was like "endorsi's great!" and gy was like "endorsi is absolutely going to try and kill me." LMAO. AND SHE ALMOST DID!!! POINTS!!! SOMETIMES PARANOIA IS OK
anyway sometimes you fall in the Big Love with someone because they understand you and also help cover for your murder and then have lots of emotions on you about it afterwards
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i kind of sped over trial in the last comment because the big senses conversation happened before it and i wanted to group all of the murder related things together!!! and this was definitely murder related. timelines are for quitters
so like i said at the beginning, gu yun's big character arc was about learning to accept help from other people. gu yun would generally rather die than ask for help from anyone or admit to any sort of weakness, especially w/ his eyesight/hearing issue. it's a whole thing! and it really delighted me that the lore came out so early for molly because i was looking at my timer gleefully like It's Time. i was pretty much vibrating all friday waiting for the body announcement to make sure that molly and harrow (and also mahito since i had settled on that plan) were alive so i could come running to do this thread.
and i think the biggest thing about him telling molly and harrow was like - he gave over this huge weakness in that "well, jsyk, i'm gonna have to kill someone this week probably, just a heads up"! and the decision to tell them all about this came with a few expected reasons (+results he thought he was going to get). one, they both knew about his senses already. two, he trusted both harrow and molly more than anyone else in this game. three, being without his medicine is just an impossibility for him - in canon, there's a point where he is given the chance to take it and get an hour of clarity before he gets the debilitating pain in the middle of a GIGANTIC battle, and he goes through this mental gymnastic of how long the battle is gonna take, realizes he'll be fucked over in the middle... and still goes "fuck it" and takes the medicine anyway. he cannot resist the chance to not be down his senses no matter the consequences, and this chance just happened to involve murdering someone. so he'd already committed to this plan at this point, unless lup was able to find another method. (i'll say he was hoping that would be the case, but, yeah. he really wasn't that mad about having to kill a guy for it. you do what you gotta do.) so, by telling the two of them, he was basically saying "hey, look, i'm probably gonna do this thing. do with that information what you will" ... so if the two of them wanted to throw him under the bus, they could. idt he really ever thought they would, but like - siz brought it up in relation to childe, that that's the kind of person he's always worked with, so i think there's a part of him that accepted that that could happen? he's an idiot is what im saying
... and he was pretty much immediately proven an idiot because molly and harrow both were like "Uh? No?" and doing everything to stop/help. like, that threw him for the BIGGEST LOOP in the world. that was the last thing he was expecting!!! that they just offered help and kindness instead of taking advantage of his senses really helped like solidify his trust in the two of them. that trust was still kind of a new feeling, though, and it was really easy to be tentative over it instead of like, jump in head first. like a newborn baby deer ya feel. it touched him a little that molly was like "what do i have to trade to make it happen" too but he also wasn't going to let him do that even if it was an option. molly's really fierce reaction to him possibly dying kind of threw him off too, so by the end of this whole conversation he was like ?? ???? ??? friends? trust?? hello??? but even that wasn't going to stop him from doing it.
i still think it is INSANELY funny that they had the exact same murder plan. so did gu yun, honestly. it helped to kind of cement his general affection for molly in the "i can't believe we're both the same kind of idiot" kind of way, but also in the way that molly just seems to like, get it? he just got what kind of person gu yun was and that's something rarely afforded to him in canon. it was why when they talked about it in private that he was a little more willing to admit to the details of it, and also why he agreed that harrow didn't need to know that it likely wasn't going to be self defense. (even though she knew.) molly asked him to promise to survive, so he did. gy's the kind of person with a lot of resolve, and those lil promises of surviving/not failing at it really just added onto that. every time he made molly a promise he did his damndest to follow through on it.
in that same little post-trial thread, molly also got TWO huge gestures of trust out of gy. the first was after they had that emotional conversation, molly asked him to stay the night, and normally, in a situation where he was going to be blind the next day, he would've fucking booked it or found literally any other excuse to stay back in his room alone. waking up blind and deaf in a location that isn't completely familiar, with another person, is a HUGE deal - that's the kind of shit he's usually so protective over. but, because it was molly, he agreed to stay, falling into that whole newborn-deer-learning-how-to-stand-but-like-emotionally thing and putting his well being in molly's hands. they ended up not staying in molly's room anyway so it didn't matter, but it was really the principle of the thing that was a big deal, and sort of following up on the conversations they'd had about managing his senses with harrow, too, willingly putting his trust down. and they ended up having a really good night after that, too.... despite love arrows still being a thing!!
the second gesture of trust was the tattoo thing. listen. man. this is sillier but gu yun? he knows he's hot shit and he's very vain about being pretty and wants to stay that way. it's also not normal for people from great liang to do like ANY kind of body mod (that's barbarian shit!) but he trusted molly to do it WHEN HE COULDN'T EVEN SEE IT!!!! we didn't get to thread it out because what was time but rest assured he was pleased when he could actually see it again haha. but he was the one to bring it up because it would be helpful, and because he trusted molly to make it look good. yea.
wow we did a lot of important shit in this one pc thread this was also the first time they talked about the "what are you doing after this" thing. molly was the first person to ask GY this question so he got to see his existential crisis live and in color which i thought was really perfect. it was the first time he ever actually thought about the fact that he didn't have much of an identity outside of being ~*The Marquis of Order*~ like ever? and that shook him a little bit, even if he didn't show it much then. one of the things i really enjoyed about this game was getting to play with gy's sense of identity and i think that molly had a huge impact on it - he just asked the right questions, or said the right things, or, you know, was just totally lovable. this got him thinking about his "fuck now what" which will come up later.
also i guess he almost died at the end of week 4 but whatever a little lava never killed nobody (except beau). he wasn't really worried about it but he did stick good on that promise of staying alive. when gy first started getting the forced to walk to the execution thing going that sunday morning the first thing he thought was "oh god dammit CROW MOUTH" but then the second was "ok gotta do this, can't die." he promised not to! so. he didn't want to give molly anything else to worry about!!
moving on to week 5!!!!
ok so by sunday night of week 4 gy knew he was going to lose his hearing/sight entirely. (i was really committed to this plan until about halfway through the day and then i was like "oh god mods i cant do this" so luckily he got to keep a teeny bit of it)!! so with the love arrow curse wrapping up plus the lack of his senses plus the whole im gonna have to kill somebody this week thing… it was the PERFECT time to flowerbomb molly and get his promise in. heh
i was setting that up on sunday like low key running around asking for favors (smash cut to me running into becks' dms and going "hey gy needs to get into the room at like 5 am what dont worry about it is that cool ok thanks". idt becks unlocked the molly pc or you didnt OR SOMEONE DIDNT but i hope there was a thread about just flowers everywhere cause the sleepover one cracked me up). gy was gonna originally go with the flowers plan the week before but it wasn't gonna be quite like this, he was just gona give them to him. but, gu yun's middle name should be yolo and therefore he just? decided to do this instead. he loves his romantic gestures and he loves being showy and dramatic and i think the week before had him feeling some kind of way so it all culminated in this pigtail pulling romance. flurry and i handwaved getting flower petals/jewelry but wrath was the one who helped him get the jewelry and the fake flowers and then any real ones were from pride c: so they were in on it too!!! but gy was like "i need something absolutely ridiculous looking" and lup gave him the dragon necklace first and then after that they picked out something serious and pretty. LOL. he was one hundred percent like hanging out waiting for molly to come visit after he did it since he couldn't hear the door, like a great big nerd. AND WOW, TOTAL SUCCESS!!!!! gu yun does absolutely nothing in small measures including spoiling/romancing a tiefling. in terms of little gay shit it made him very sappy to see him wearing the nice piece like all the time forever which is very gross.
too bad he couldn't see that well! ha
anyway, dokis happened and it was great! that was his version of a "ok i like you romantically but idk how to say it so im just gonna act like it", really. our threads started off really light and positive and flirty at the beginning of the week, kind of on purpose? at least on gys end bc he knew what was coming. (they talked plot a bit week 5 too which phew :stressedbunny:). but he was trying to put it all out there. you know. just in case. so things got more anxiety ridden of course as the week went on and then gy did in fact kill the flea, shocking absolutely no one!!!
he was lying obviously about it being self defense but he was lying for harrow at least in their first convo after it. the hug slap still absolutely kills me i think its the funniest thing ever, gy was absolutely not expecting molly to smack him AND HE KNEW WHY HE DID IT so he just took it which is even funnier. he like knew his lie extra wouldn't stand up to molly so there was something kind of relieving about molly choosing to accept it, i think? just another level where they Vibed on his end, looking out for harrow. i feel like week five was like peak big brothers and little sister, both with horrible flirting over curfew and also when they were covering her ears during the talk stupid as hell.
before the trial this two comment pc took me the FUCK out i remember i just screamed when i got it AUUGH. it was good over text, because gy was able to say it back, and helped solidify that resolve of surviving the trial and not getting caught. throughout this whole thing he just coming back to that "no one left behind" he promised that first weekend. it wasn't just for great liang either at that point, he had to survive for molly (and lup and harrow), too.
during the trial itself he didn't have any doubt that they were going to be okay, but ultimately, it was molly who saved his ass. stepping back from that trial, one of the biggest meta things that I pulled from it was like. the narrative joy of the relationship b/t gy and childe and the type of people they are - and how childe had his Murder Club but ultimately didnt really trust others, and gu yun put his entire faith and trust in molly and harrow - an absolute leap of faith - and it was that willingness that got him safely through the trial itself. (side note: i really thought it was great that he had his claw mark mixed in and the excuse was "These are from molly (waggles eyebrows)" and the entire game was like "yup that checks out". like thank god they been fckin.)
anyway the actual trial was sort of a culminating moment for the relationship between molly and gy on gy's end if only because it did a good job showing how much build up had to go through for this to happen. i mentioned in the last comment but trust is HUGE for gu yun, and this trial did a great job of showing him why molly (and harrow too) wasn't like the people he was used to working with (ie: childe), and that he wasn't only just worthy of his trust a little, but he was fullheartedly. i ended up making this asw after week 5 ended. touches heart. molly was already ride or die by this point but this did so much for him in terms of being a little less terrified of Feelings because there's nothing more terrifying than putting your entire life in someone else's hands?? and having it work out so perfectly just did so much for that.
also he cried on him saturday night for hug/slap combo 2! there was a lot going on in that thread (to say the least) but gy is so just absolutely fatally bad with tears that he would've done LITERALLY ANYTHING to comfort him and make him feel better. i think by the end of it he was pretty wrung out too, between the actual trial itself (and like having the mistakes and the not mistakes kinda shoved into his face for nine hours) and lup being freaked out and harrow being upset and having to stick to his lie so when molly broke down on him he was Going Through It, too? it's why he grabbed onto him and was holding on really tight, bc harrow got to him real good and then molly crying on him was also freaking him out and sometimes you are just one stupid man who does not know how to feel emotions and he was feeling SO MANY EMOTIONS.
i think it was dokis in terms of like "i have feelings for you/ i really care about you" up until the end of week 5, after the trial. after that it was something way deeper. that big l word. even molly joking like "i dont even want to bang i just want to cuddle" he was like man
me too???
wild. this is wild. gu yun like... there's a line in canon that talks about how when he's held by another person, he sleeps like an absolute fucking baby because he's never really been loved? in his entire life? so i think molly's emotions and his willingness to help him no matter what and just his reactions before/during/after all of week five were just the last piece. by the end of week 5 he just felt. loved. and like, i know you said gy took molly out at the knees in terms of a ship but it was completely mutual! every time he needed help, even when he didn't reach out for it or ask (and when he did) and even when he didn't deserve it (see: allying with childe) molly still gave it to him and that is just so. its SO much. gy didn't stand a chance either. wow amazing. he just felt loved!!! so he really meant his "I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you" and he wouldn't have said that if he wasn't feeling a certain kind of way.
sighs heavily anyway childe's stupid ass REVIVED and he was super worried about getting retaliated against but molly was one of the reasons why he chilled out just a little - though, admittedly, he was more on harrow's side of paranoia than molly's in this case. one of those things where he and harrow are super similar in that they're both suspicious as hell and molly was like "endorsi's great!" and gy was like "endorsi is absolutely going to try and kill me." LMAO. AND SHE ALMOST DID!!! POINTS!!! SOMETIMES PARANOIA IS OK
anyway sometimes you fall in the Big Love with someone because they understand you and also help cover for your murder and then have lots of emotions on you about it afterwards
im out of characters again sighs deeply