TL;CR MEME

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1. Comment with your character.
2. Receive comments from others.
3. Reply to their comments with long ballads and explanations of your characters' relationship throughout the game.
4. Suffer as we have suffered over your CR.

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[liuli]

here have some mood music
'We, the counterfeit heirs to the wide and weeping edge of the world, we're long past the day where we stood in the light.' whew!!

god jesus i dont even know where to start

i'm gonna say first i definitely definitely did NOT expect to have such good cr with harrow, especially because i didnt know anything about her at all besides "bone girl all over my twitter feed"! i was like she's probably gonna be too serious and ig gy can bully her a little bit lmao

and i wasn't like entirely wrong on that last part but the rest? boy howdy!! in our very first thread they bonded like a little tiny bit over both having sensitive baby palates? which was funny at the time, i was like "aw cute they have something in common"... and then week 1 happened

so first off gy started getting a little fond of harrow when she was super stubborn about learning how to ride a horse in the simulation room? it reminded him SO much of chang geng like literally immediately, and he's coming off of a canon point where he was just reunited with him for the first time in a while so it was already a soft spot. so he was already like "haha aw cute" and then... you know, one of my favorite surprises of this game was just how much gu yun and harrow had in common, and it started that week. harrow was the ONLY person to get a lore drop out of gu yun before memshare because he just resonated so deeply with the lore harrow gave him in return. you know how stubbornly unbelievably private about this kind of shit he is so the fact that he was willing to give it over immediately said A LOT.

there was just so much in that little conversation that pretty much ensured that he was going to be ride or die team harrow for the rest of the fucking game. their parents died when they were 9 and 10. they both had to carry the entire weight of their family on their backs - and not just their family, but the legacy of said family, too. he understands so intimately what it means to be a symbol before being yourself and it was so hard to hear that out of harrow, because he had long since accepted it for himself but wouldn't put it on anyone else in a heartbeat. it's also something he just doesn't have in common with ANYONE so to hear it here was doin the MOST. especially once they got to the part about how their parents treated them because of it? just hinting at it?? it was great!! fantastic!!! me, screaming, gu yun, internally screaming

at this point i was still hanging onto the blind/deaf lore so when she said "Never once was I in danger of discovery" i was just sitting there like oh n

it was at this exact moment that he became arlo meme if anything ever happens to harrow i will kill everyone in this room and then myself. WEEK ONE. he just never vibed with someone SO hard on past stuff and as someone who is inherently reticent about those kinds of things it was a huge deal.

speaking of lore! so fun fact, at the beginning of that first week when we had skill loss i was like "okay, i'm gonna pick one random person to get the blind/deaf lore" and it was initially literally just gonna be rng? i think i was gonna give it to yuri (sorry becks) but as we started working on this thread i was like "no it HAS to go to harrow". and she handled it so perfectly. this was one of those conversations that could have like S ranked CR or failed it immediately and harrow passed it with FLYING colors - i didn't expect anything less after the thread before but she just handled it so fucking well. and the return lore drop surprised me, too!!! i wrote "...Someone who sees too much, and someone who doesn't see at all. What a pair we make." in that tag and i like can't explain to you how much it means that he was willing to make a kind of bitter joke about it because he was willing to acknowledge the fact that he was blind to someone out loud. harrow had his complete and utter trust from the first week, and gu yun does not trust easily.

so then of course naturally he was officially bonded to this girl for life and then SHE WENT ON TRAUMA VORE BABY CYOA. AAAAAA. so like it was hard to tell in the thread necessarily i think because it was so early in the game and he was still really, really guarded but gy was so fucking worried about her while she was gone and when she came back. he's not soft enough to immediately admit so and hug her or anything but i think coming from that same sense of "i understand you", he also tried to keep the interaction businesslike and not push too hard on details, because if it was him, he would've wanted to focus on the duty at hand and pretend he was fine so he let harrow do so if she wanted to, too. but he was so so so so SOOO fucking worried about her LMAO, and he just had to kind of show it in the way he knows how to show it best. it's why he immediately checked in re: curfew hallucinations also. (pensive)

its only week 1 i want to die

LAUGHS IN MEMSHARE GOD uhhh finding out they had the same child abuse motifs? AWFUL? oh my god, when i got the first memory from you and saw the hanging stuff i just started like running across the room to find my SPL notes so i could go get the "if you cant stand up go hang yourself" line memory because that was not the one i was gonna give originally and i was LOSING MY ASS over the similarities. it was just! more vibes! more horrible, awful vibes!! if he wasn't already fucking attached to harrow this was like the nail in the coffin!!! the two of them both just being Like That and not talking about it much was interesting, too, because he like railroaded the conversation back to talking about harrow really quickly and he appreciated it that she was willing to let him do that. men are so stupid. i also just looked and saw i didnt tag back about the wish and hate myself but it was CYOA week and i was dying. LOL

which... CYOA 2! Wow! ok when he came back and harrow was so worried about him it took him super off guard (men are idiots)! gu yun gets hurt All The Fucking Time in canon, this is just a thing - so to him losing a hand and knowing he could get it back he was extra like "meh, whatever". but it touched him a lot to see harrow care so much about his well being? fond... gross... also she was the literal first person he talked to about his bone hand. well, ok, he texted molly to be like "im alive" and then immediately after was like "hey harrow come check out my outside bones." i LOVED this little part of this thread i was kicky feeting over getting her to smile.. and gy was too. big brother feelings. you can tell he was really happy about it too bc he immediately ruined it with a joke. LMAO

i do still think its funny that the cyoas went harrow - gu yun - molly? our braincell family all just progressively more wrecked. (molly wins!) harrow was one of the first people gy sought out when molly got back too because he knew she would understand (because she? always? understands?? closes eyes) and boy he wasnt wrong. the space between the two cyoas was really the like "these are the two people i care the absolute most about in this place" moment and i think from then on they were the two-gay-brothers-and-little-bone-sister trio they ended up being for the rest of the game. LOL. i think them both bonding over being incapable of doing regular emotion started here, too. he called her his friend which like... for as much as he plays at being really socially great and is a good conversationalist and all of that it was so nice to have some like. REAL cr where it was clear that all of that is bullshit? and i think it made their bond a lot tighter, because from the beginning, harrow (much like molly) knew gu yun, and not the Marquis of Order, for all the good parts and the shitty parts. it was another week of them vibing in ways you would just never expect them to vibe over at first glance.

he was SOOO proud of her over the trap, also. oh my god. he was SO proud. like, big big brother feelings. big [ LOUDLY WILL SMITH POSES ] feelings. he trusted harrow over so many things and knew she was super clever, and teased about not getting to know about the story beforehand too - there was some little part of him that was like "wow i wanted to be in on it" but then the minute she told him the reason she didnt tell him before he was like "oh yeah nevermind that checks out."

THIS WAS ALSO THE STUPID CONFESSION THREAD? GODJDKFH jesus christ if he didnt think about harrow as a little sister before that why are you so MEAN to him, harrow!!! this tied in nicely to her being like "hey are you. ok" in week 4 and gy being like "please never ask me anything about this ever again" in terms of Romance l;dlksh god week 4 was such a mess

both of them like mission impossible trying to find the love arrow person bc they were both worried about molly was also kind of funny - he really did appreciate that harrow just let him focus on business (more vibes!) and not anything else unlike SOME people. beyond that was a lot of fussing over harrow with the curse and also the whole execution, but,

the most important thing in week 4 was him officially telling harrow and molly about losing his eyesight and hearing and needing his medicine.

so on an ooc level i had set up a timeline for this to happen and was kind of watching my cr wondering if anything was going to be said about it on gy's end. up until week 3/4 he'd been working with childe (so associating with the murder mafia) and continued to after this point but it was a little different. i think that he really could've gone either way towards laying his allegiances at the very beginning - he very easily could've had a completely different (and very bad) character arc in this game, but his super close bond with molly and harrow meant he was firmly in the good person/team protagonist/good arc camp.

he spent most of week 4 thinking about if he was going to tell them, and ultimately decided to, and i like. this was such a huge deal and sort of the crux moment of his character development in game. the reason i even matched him to pride was because of his "i can do it myself/i cant rely on anyone". because he is basically an inhuman symbol for great liang and has always had to be! so!!! it was wild, that he was able to completely rely on harrow and molly, and... that was sort of terrifying for him too? i don't think he had ANY idea of how this conversation was going to go (because he didnt even have this conversation with the only other person who found out in canon it just was like a known fact) so to actually make the move to address it was a really big deal. and.

... harrow's reaction surprised him so much. both of them, really but the last thing he was expecting was like both how fiercely defensive harrow was over him and also how angry she was about the idea of him failing and getting killed?? stupid dumb idiot again but like wow he sure experienced a lot of real human emotions over this convo!! wow he just didnt know how to deal with it at all!!! at this point he was so touched and also so like. terrified! both of being like "wow i let someone else know about this and its gonna be okay (?)" and also "wow i'm trusting someone else? what if they stab me in the back." and also "wow i am going to do it anyway whats going to happen" and also "wow im attached to these two holy shit"

and like ultimately, he still wasnt strong enough to just 100% say "okay im gonna let them help and not do it". rip.

side note here, molly and gy talked about this that week too, and molly told him no matter what, not to tell harrow until after because she couldn't have the blood on her hands and he was worried, and gy was worried, too, so he immediately agreed - it was why he continued the self defense lie, because he was SO WORRIED about putting that on harrow! he didnt need to be but he was!!! so he knew it wouldnt hold up (esp the second they started figuring shit out at trial) but he had to keep lying about it. lmao...

sO THEN WE GET TO MURDER WEEK

harrow helping cover him in a million ways this week and doing so in ways that were subtle meant a lot to him. both with taking his glass and with her being extra rude/mean all week and like, giving him those nonverbal/movement cues that he desperately needed in order to function all week long. however it did not stop him from killin mahito. LMAO.

the slap/hug reversal came out of this week - harrow hugging him surprised the hell out of him too, i cannot explain to you how much every time she showed that she cared about him he was like ?? ???? ??!!! this is why he was so attached.

so when it came out that he lied and she was furious with him gy like really, genuinely felt remorseful? like he stuck to the lie bc of what molly told him, but also because genuinely he didnt want either of them to think any different of him LMAO... god what a new emotion for gu yun! new emotion...2! he didnt want to disappoint them bc he knows what kind of a person he is and isnt really apologetic for it but also holy shit he had such a bond with harrow, the kind he has NEVER had before and so he awkwardly and stupidly was fumbling through the entire convo. and the one after it, actually! he just kept being like "yes you are so much smarter than me" because she is but also he was willin to admit so. LMAO. harrow cowed him and he was completely like. shamed. he actually listened. he wouldn't have taken this kind of talk from literally anyone else but her and molly. i think the line that got him the most was when harrow said

"Don't you understand that both of us would have chosen you, if you'd told us?" like holy SHIT

this was such a fucking wake up call line and it ended up pushing a lot of my other cr in a more positive direction (see: mineo) and influencing a lot of decisions gy made after that? bc that remark just totally floored him. like he will always show weakness when it comes to having his medicine and it was the reason why he was like completely willing to just let her go off on him and actually listen to all the things she was saying... and i think the fact that it didnt completely destroy their cr meant the absolute fucking world to him too, if only because he really, really, really fucking didnt want it to!!! he was scared! big bad gu yun! very scared! what a bunch of new and scary feelings!!! but the fact that they both were like "you fucking idiot" and were bonded anyway... clenches fist...

her speech really did get at him right at his core and i really dont think anyone else besides harrow + molly could've gotten him to learn that lesson. so like. you didnt even s rank cr you like triple S ranked it. 100% completion. harrow (and molly) were the reason his character arc moved forward. periodt.

im moving on because ill spend forever on this weekend jesus

I BROKE THE FUCKING CHARACTER LIMIT AAAAA JESUS CHRIST