I guess no, but... Sorcerers will always die alone. Everything else is not as depressing as that.
[ He laughs and his mood doesn't sink. It stays afloat. ]
I think so! It means hope of some kind, right? Like there's a sliver of a chance things can be okay if we keep investigating. They're trying to help us, too.
I get why, but that doesn't mean I have to think that's fair either.
[there's something a little like fear and worry there but it skitters off.]
But you're right! I think as long as there's some kind of hope, even the worst things aren't so bad. So don't let their messages go to waste and stuff. You guys are still important to them, it sounds like.
[she seems to cheer up a little at that because she does want to be a kind person, especially to someone who's important to one of her favs.]
It's fair, sure, but it's also not. I don't want to shut down conversations just because it's a little sad or uncomfortable or anything. I think everybody needs a chance to say the things they want to say, don't you?
[ His emotions settle... Quiet and pensive since he also didn’t enjoy how things ended up. While he was fine with whatever plans they had for Childe as long as they explored their options, he finds inconsistent rhetoric... uncharitable.
Lust must be different though and there’s curiosity mixed with sympathy. He didn’t like today, either. ]
Which part did you not agree with?
[ SO MANY THINGS HAPPENED FOR SUCH A CASE, REALLY. EMOTIONALLY. ]
Most of it. The dead can still see you guys...I'd be pretty unhappy if I had to watch someone replicate death. And this all started Sunday when you were debating leaving Childe to die anyway. You kept him in jail for this long. Was it really so important to kill him, too?
[she shrugs, but there's definitely frustration in her emotions, and something close to disappointment.]
I don't know. People care about the people that're alive and I get it. Like I said, there's a lot they care about and it makes them act crazy. Maybe I would've done the same thing, too. But that doesn't change the way one murderer got hung out to dry while the other did the community a favor.
The trial didn’t hurt me personally, but I understood it was... Tasteless. Especially from the people alive. If it sparked the thought that maybe it’s related to Luca’s murder, then I’m sure Yuri thought similar.
[ fucking ouch. ]
Childe’s keen and looks for efficiency—kind of a tryhard, actually. So I believed him when he said it wasn’t worth it, but people thought that someone had to die on Thursdays, too. Like as a mechanic of this place.
[ He closes his eyes, obviously frustrated, too. While he isn’t particularly sad about Childe’s death x2, just everything that surrounded it was much. ]
I didn’t interfere, so I can’t complain. I can at least say murder is still murder no matter how pretty it’s dressed.
[ ... He isn’t even sure if this will mean much. It probably doesn’t because he’s only one out of many. ]
Don't apologize. I didn't say it thinking you would agree with me, I said it because I thought you'd be least likely to tell me I'm wrong about it. [which seems to be the case here, at least enough.]
There's no magic mechanic that says people have to die. It just continued to happen each week, sort of like it did back then. Only back then it didn't happen nice and neatly on Thursdays. It was just whenever people felt like it.
...either way it's fine. But I don't know if I agree with how they all feel right now. Not yet. That's all. It's why I don't want Yuri to swap to my team even if he keeps asking. I'm not ready for that.
[unfortunately she has zero taste and was fairly fond of childe, so there's a bias there.]
I don't want to say "I'm used to this" but...[shrugs in murder.]
I don't know if it'll be detrimental, but that's still something everybody should've thought about before taking an extra life instead of thinking of another solution, isn't it?
[that's what she takes issue with. y'all could've really just subdued childe like everyone was talking about with various hubris powers and whatever and kept him in jail.]
[ Okay, he gives he a gently pat on the shoulder because... It's fine if some of them grew up fighting, if they're used to a war torn place, but for those that don't need to—they shouldn't need to see all of that. ]
I remember them talking about it before, but...
[ Mm. ]
They seemed sure you would be fine since we could switch teams. [ ... ] You're going to punish them like this?
[thanks for that gojou. there's a little blip of gratitude but then it gives way to something more solem.]
They didn't even ask. [which is another point against everybody.] Is it really a punishment if I tell them to stay where they are? I don't want Wrath to lose Yuri either.
Other Avatars have more than you, so moving things around shouldn't be a problem. Yuri will always talk to Lust since they're one of his favorites.
[ The whole context of it and why they got here, though. They already touched on that. Anyway, he isn't pushing anything, instead stating that it's okay to take a bit. ]
Do it however you want, Lust. I'd even support you if it's out of frustration.
I know but...it's just stupid. [I know you meant wrath so i will let that slide. ]
I'll think about it. If anyone asks we'll go from there. But I'm not making any moves for the rest of the weekend just in case. [but she is appreciative of the support.]
[ Sometimes wild and dramatic things just come to you like it's normal. ]
I thought it through and while I'm not close with most of them... I know Mineo would never forgive himself for letting me get to that point. He would probably have a breakdown? Maybe spiral. There's Yuri and Medb, too. They would be after my head in the afterlife.
[ HEHE. ]
Anyway! No pain, no gain is what people say, but if you break someone they don't gain anything.
I guess that makes sense. And you're probably right. He seemed like he felt bad earlier today, so if he got someone else in trouble...but that's still the price to pay for something like this.
They're lucky. [that gojou changed his mind.] ...I think some people might disagree that there isn't anything to be gained from breaking people, but I would agree with you. It just makes things much harder on everybody else. People want to help each other. That's what makes a thing like death so dangerous in the first place.
Either way? I'm glad you didn't go through with that idea.
... There will always be consequences to someone's actions whether they perceive it right away or not. [ He sighs. ] They really are lucky.
Yeah, other people can gain stuff from breaking others, but the broken won't learn anything, right? I don't want to leave Mineo like that... Like you said, people want to help each other and I don't want him to forget how to do that just because he's balled up blaming himself.
[ Gives her a thumbs up! ]
Not sure if I'm glad to be here! But it's been good talking to you. My mood is a lot better.
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[ He laughs and his mood doesn't sink. It stays afloat. ]
I think so! It means hope of some kind, right? Like there's a sliver of a chance things can be okay if we keep investigating. They're trying to help us, too.
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[there's something a little like fear and worry there but it skitters off.]
But you're right! I think as long as there's some kind of hope, even the worst things aren't so bad. So don't let their messages go to waste and stuff. You guys are still important to them, it sounds like.
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[ He laughs, but makes note of the fear and the worry. ]
If you don't like a topic, you can always ask not to talk about it. I think that's fair.
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It's fair, sure, but it's also not. I don't want to shut down conversations just because it's a little sad or uncomfortable or anything. I think everybody needs a chance to say the things they want to say, don't you?
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[ what the fuck ]
Inject some of that into everyone else!
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They're not that bad...[they are.] There's just a lot going on that people care about and it makes them act sorta crazy.
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DOUBTFUL AS FUCK and stares at her. Say that again while LOOKING INTO HIS EYES. ]
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...am I allowed to be honest? You can't tell Yuri either.
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[ Gojou Satoru, holding secrets that matter, but blurting out shit that doesn’t. ]
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I'm pretty mad about how today went. This whole week, even. I know they did what was probably the right thing, but I don't agree with how they did it.
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Lust must be different though and there’s curiosity mixed with sympathy. He didn’t like today, either. ]
Which part did you not agree with?
[ SO MANY THINGS HAPPENED FOR SUCH A CASE, REALLY. EMOTIONALLY. ]
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[she shrugs, but there's definitely frustration in her emotions, and something close to disappointment.]
I don't know. People care about the people that're alive and I get it. Like I said, there's a lot they care about and it makes them act crazy. Maybe I would've done the same thing, too. But that doesn't change the way one murderer got hung out to dry while the other did the community a favor.
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[ fucking ouch. ]
Childe’s keen and looks for efficiency—kind of a tryhard, actually. So I believed him when he said it wasn’t worth it, but people thought that someone had to die on Thursdays, too. Like as a mechanic of this place.
[ He closes his eyes, obviously frustrated, too. While he isn’t particularly sad about Childe’s death x2, just everything that surrounded it was much. ]
I didn’t interfere, so I can’t complain. I can at least say murder is still murder no matter how pretty it’s dressed.
[ ... He isn’t even sure if this will mean much. It probably doesn’t because he’s only one out of many. ]
Sorry.
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There's no magic mechanic that says people have to die. It just continued to happen each week, sort of like it did back then. Only back then it didn't happen nice and neatly on Thursdays. It was just whenever people felt like it.
...either way it's fine. But I don't know if I agree with how they all feel right now. Not yet. That's all. It's why I don't want Yuri to swap to my team even if he keeps asking. I'm not ready for that.
[unfortunately she has zero taste and was fairly fond of childe, so there's a bias there.]
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We didn’t really need any of these, especially this past week... We could have kept one more life.
[ That... Makes it worse? Gojou doesn’t outwardly say it, but his emotions make it easy to tell what he’s thinking. ]
Won’t that be detrimental for you? I’m not sure how long you can put that off.
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I don't know if it'll be detrimental, but that's still something everybody should've thought about before taking an extra life instead of thinking of another solution, isn't it?
[that's what she takes issue with. y'all could've really just subdued childe like everyone was talking about with various hubris powers and whatever and kept him in jail.]
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I remember them talking about it before, but...
[ Mm. ]
They seemed sure you would be fine since we could switch teams. [ ... ] You're going to punish them like this?
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They didn't even ask. [which is another point against everybody.] Is it really a punishment if I tell them to stay where they are? I don't want Wrath to lose Yuri either.
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[ The whole context of it and why they got here, though. They already touched on that. Anyway, he isn't pushing anything, instead stating that it's okay to take a bit. ]
Do it however you want, Lust. I'd even support you if it's out of frustration.
[ Cause he's no better. ]
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I'll think about it. If anyone asks we'll go from there. But I'm not making any moves for the rest of the weekend just in case. [but she is appreciative of the support.]
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You really are nice, Lust. How I was going to act on my frustration was vote myself.
[ From 0 as i want to think more about team switching to 100 i want people to watch me die to let them remember killing will just mean more death. ]
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...can I ask what made you change your mind?
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I thought it through and while I'm not close with most of them... I know Mineo would never forgive himself for letting me get to that point. He would probably have a breakdown? Maybe spiral. There's Yuri and Medb, too. They would be after my head in the afterlife.
[ HEHE. ]
Anyway! No pain, no gain is what people say, but if you break someone they don't gain anything.
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I guess that makes sense. And you're probably right. He seemed like he felt bad earlier today, so if he got someone else in trouble...but that's still the price to pay for something like this.
They're lucky. [that gojou changed his mind.] ...I think some people might disagree that there isn't anything to be gained from breaking people, but I would agree with you. It just makes things much harder on everybody else. People want to help each other. That's what makes a thing like death so dangerous in the first place.
Either way? I'm glad you didn't go through with that idea.
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Yeah, other people can gain stuff from breaking others, but the broken won't learn anything, right? I don't want to leave Mineo like that... Like you said, people want to help each other and I don't want him to forget how to do that just because he's balled up blaming himself.
[ Gives her a thumbs up! ]
Not sure if I'm glad to be here! But it's been good talking to you. My mood is a lot better.
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